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Jeff Stuffings Explains Why Jester King is Seeking a Buyer
Investment
November 11, 202648 mins

Jeff Stuffings Explains Why Jester King is Seeking a Buyer

Jester King Brewery made headlines last month when it announced it was seeking new ownership or significant investment. Co-founder Jeff Stuffings joins the Brewbound Podcast to discuss the decision.After a slowdown in distributed sales of the mixed fermentation sour ales that earned it national renown, Jester King pivoted to more approachable IPAs and lagers, which now account for 80% of the Austin, Texas-based craft brewery’s business. “We accumulated a lot of debt, some of it good, some of it bad, over the last four-ish years,” Stuffings said. “As far as our future success as I see it, we'll probably need to restructure some of that debt and require a pretty significant influx of capital into the company to take advantage of the demand that we've generated and still have.”All Jester King employees have been briefed on the search as it unfolds, and protecting their jobs is paramount, Stuffings said. “What's motivating me to be very transparent and public about this process is I really love my team, love getting to work with them,” he said. “They're really a super talented group of people and I want to see them set up for success, even though change is inevitable.”Before the interview, the Brewbound team dives into recent headlines, including the departure of Anheuser-Busch InBev North American CEO Brendan Whitworth, Sazerac’s acquisition of Full Sail Brewing’s facility and Wilding Brands’ shuttering of its Denver production hub.Listen here or your preferred podcast platform.
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RNDC’s Unpaid Tab, Craft’s Mid-Year Number and Boston Beer’s Rally Dog
Alcohol
July 29, 202634 mins

RNDC’s Unpaid Tab, Craft’s Mid-Year Number and Boston Beer’s Rally Dog

Republic National Distributing Company (RNDC) is leaving a big unpaid tab. The distributor filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy this week, with liabilities between $1 billion and $10 billion, and more than 100,000 creditors.In this episode of the Brewbound Podcast, Brewbound editor Justin Kendall and senior reporter Zoe Licata dive into the bankruptcy filing, as well as the fallout, with many suppliers left wondering if they’ll ever get paid back.Justin and Zoe also catch up on the other big headlines, including the Brewers Association’s (BA) 2026 mid-year report, with projected craft volume declines of 4%. They discuss why the news isn’t all bad – with a majority of respondents reporting growth – and why it’s not all good.The conversation shifts to Boston Beer’s second-quarter results and Sun Cruiser’s growing importance to the company’s bottomline. They also explore Boston’s growing fast-follower innovation strategy, including Rally Dog, a potential hard sports drink challenger brand. Plus, they touch on if beer companies might be walking back their opposition to the spirits industry’s equalization efforts.Finally, seasonal creep is here and real as pumpkin beers are already popping up on store shelves.It’s a quick, fun recap of the latest news. Listen here.
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Brewbound Podcast Episode 007: Josh Hare on Texas’ Confusing Direct-to-Consumer Laws
October 25, 20181 hr 7 mins

Brewbound Podcast Episode 007: Josh Hare on Texas’ Confusing Direct-to-Consumer Laws

About four years ago, Hops & Grain Brewing founder Josh Hare began the process of transitioning his Austin-based craft beer company from a licensed manufacturing brewery to a brewpub. He wanted to take advantage of a new Texas law that allowed brewpubs to sell beer directly to consumers for off-premise consumption while simultaneously expanding his operation. So Hare signed a lease on an adjacent space inside the building where his brewery was located and spent nearly $80,000 on the beginning stages of an expansion while he waited for the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission to approve the switch. Then his request was denied. The problem? A hallway dividing his existing brewery and the new space he was planning to expand into meant that his vision of occupying the entire building would never be realized. “In the state of Texas, spaces under one permit have to be contiguous,” he said. “And that hallway created a non-contiguous space between what was our original space and what we wanted to be the new space.” So Hare opted to maintain his manufacturing permit while he spent the next two years planning another attempt. And then he was denied again. This time, Hare learned that his licensed manufacturing brewery was located in an area of Austin that was not zoned for direct-to-consumer alcohol sales. “Manufacturing is fine. Giving away free beer samples is fine. But if you are actually trying to transact, that doesn’t work unless you sell more than 51 percent of your revenue from non-alcohol sales,” he said. In episode seven of the Brewbound Podcast, Hare takes a deep dive into his company’s complicated four-year process of becoming a licensed Texas brewpub, and why he feels the state’s confusing direct-to-consumer sales laws need modernizing. Hare also discusses how he’s financed Hops & Grain’s growth, why he feels Texas beer wholesalers wield too much power and why current Texas alcohol laws make it difficult for upstart breweries to breakout. Also in this episode: Brewbound editors Chris Furnari and Justin Kendall share the latest news and run down segments. Listen to episode seven of the Brewbound Podcast above, as well as on iTunes. The episode is also available on Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, and Soundcloud. New episodes of the Brewbound Podcast, which is co-hosted by Furnari and Kendall, are published every Thursday. Episode eight, featuring Constellation Brands’ Bill Hackett, will be released on Thursday, November 1. For questions, comments or suggestions, please email [email protected].
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Brewbound Podcast Episode 006: Sam Calagione on Craft Beer’s ‘Smiling Jaws of Death’
October 18, 201855 mins

Brewbound Podcast Episode 006: Sam Calagione on Craft Beer’s ‘Smiling Jaws of Death’

Delaware’s Dogfish Head Craft Brewery is bucking industry trends, growing off-premise volume sales at a double-digit clip, while many other similarly sized craft beer companies struggle to stay out of the red. So how is Dogfish doing it? If you asked co-founder and CEO Sam Calagione, he’d tell you that a relentless focus on producing high-quality and well-differentiated beers has helped his company avoid being chewed up by what he calls the “smiling jaws of death.” “There is the lower jaw, that has tons and tons of tiny teeth – which are the local and hyperlocal breweries, mostly oriented toward the tasting room,” he said. “And then the top level, there are the big ass teeth. The volume brands that are either indie brands like Dogfish, and Sam Adams, and Sierra, and Yuengling, and Bell’s. And then affiliate brands, that are really owned by global conglomerates, but market themselves like they are American indie craft breweries.” Calagione believes that, as the industry approaches 7,000 craft breweries, successful beer companies will need to either remain small and hyperlocal or be forced to invest large amounts of money in an effort to “break through the noise of the top 50 brands,” and “go up the ladder of your distributors.” “There are very little opportunities in-between,” he told Brewbound. “There are breweries that are over their skis in terms of investment in their equipment, but also over their skis in terms of five, 10, 20-state distribution networks, but they don’t have the resources to support a broad geographic distribution base.” In episode six of the Brewbound Podcast, editor Chris Furnari and Calagione discuss how Dogfish Head is “navigating the noise” of 7,000 small breweries, how other craft breweries can grow without taking on too much debt, and how Dogfish Head has financed its own expansion in recent years. Throughout the conversation, conducted during Dogfish Head’s annual distributor meeting last month in Baltimore, Calagione explains the benefits of remaining a small, taproom-focused brewery in today’s competitive marketplace, why he is bullish on the Brewers Association’s independent craft brewer seal, and how he envisions the marketplace evolving in the coming years. Also in this episode: Furnari and Brewbound assistant editor Justin Kendall share the latest news and run down segments. Listen to episode six of the Brewbound Podcast above, as well as on iTunes. The episode is also available on Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, and Soundcloud. New episodes of the Brewbound Podcast, which is co-hosted by Furnari and Kendall, are published every Thursday. Episode seven, featuring Hops & Grain founder Josh Hare, will be released on Thursday, October 25. For questions, comments or suggestions, please email [email protected].
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